Post by TheFirebrand on Mar 1, 2012 1:59:04 GMT -6
... for I Have Seen the Corruption It Brings ...
"Notwithstanding I have a few things against thee, Because thou sufferest that woman Jezebel, which called herself a prophetess, to teach and to seduce my servants to commit fornication, and to eat things sacrificed with idols." (Revelations 2:20).
God has never called a woman to preach the Gospel and never will. I see a lot of women also using *Isaiah 61:1* to give them just cause. The use of that Scripture is an utterly rebellious and blasphemous contradiction to Gods Word ...
1 Samuel 15:23: "For rebellion is as the sin of witchcraft, and stubbornness is as iniquity and idolatry. Because thou hast rejected the word of the LORD, he hath also rejected thee from being king."
It matters not who stands for it or justifies it. Let God be true and every man a liar. (Romans 3:4). God said, "I suffer not a woman to teach nor usurp authority over the man but to be in silence." (1 Timothy 2:12). How can a woman be a preacher if she cannot teach me? Jesus said to his preachers (men) to "go ye therefore and teach all nations." (Matthew 28:19). God said for women to be shamefaced, (1 Timothy 2;9). How then can she preach or lead? God said, "Let your women keep silence in the churches." (1 Corinthians 14:34). How can she preach if she is not allowed to set the church in order? God instructed the old women to teach the young women (Titus 2:3-4) and he told the young women to marry and bear children, (1 Timothy 5:14)
Galatians 5:19-21 says: “Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these: Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness, idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies, envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.”
Look up the definitions of some of the words in this list of these atrocities ...
Testifying (from the pew) under the permitted supervision of a Pastor is not an open door invitation for women to automatically start running programs and leading projects ...
Look at exactly what the True Word of God has to say about this subject, and what the word of God says that is it. First of all the Bible says nothing to support the calling of women to preach as the many hundreds of women and unlearned men are claiming today. No, God never sent a woman to preach, and there is no bible that says he did. There is no bible where women proclaimed the gospel of Jesus Christ, using any one of the five gifts, No there is not one instance where preaching took place. Instead the bible condemns women trying to preach, having and showing authority over the man. I myself remember always having issue with a guest speaker's wife being given the pulpit for a time over the congregation. Whether its in adult ministry or the music worship team or any programs and projects. Even the Pastors wives are given far too much power in a church's goings on ... Only women and unlearned weak men believe otherwise.
*Numbers 22:27-28* is one of the scripture that is always run to for justification. (Which in my opinion just proves the point) "And when the ass saw the angel of the Lord, she fell down under Balaam: and Balaam’s anger was kindled, and he smote the ass with a staff. And the Lord opened the mouth of the ass, and she said unto Balaam, what have I done unto the, that thou hast smitten me these three times?" Out of pure ignorance and being unlearned, they emphasize the fact that it was a female animal, and because it spoke to Balaam they contend that, that gives them the right to preach. Now after the dust settles down, it becomes evident that they over looked what kind of voice came out of the dumb ass. Read, 2nd. Peter 2:15-16, "Which have forsaken the right way, and are gone astray, following the way of Balaam the son of Boser, who loved the wages of unrighteousness; But was rebuked for his iniquity; the dumb ass speaking with MAN’S VOICE forbad the madness of the prophet." As the scripture states, the dumb ass spoke with man’s voice and there is no way that they can go to Numbers to justify themselves as women preachers.
Another scripture the women run to is the one that speaks of Deborah and because she judged Israel. But, the Bible did not say she preached. Deborah was a prophetess and the unlearned try to tie that in with *Joel 2:28* "And it shall come to pass afterward, that I will pour out my spirit upon all flesh; and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, your old men shall dream dreams, your young men shall see visions" ... Not realizing the power of God nor understanding the scripture they think prophesying is preaching, which is not true. Prophesying is the foretelling of an event that is going to happen in the future. Prophesying makes no one a preacher, neither man nor women. It is given to women to prophesy, but not to preach. Just as the sudden interpretation of tongues in a service is not an automatic permission to allow a woman to have authority over the people from that point on. It is merely the person God chose to use as the most sensitive to His spirit at that time. Giving women a position over the whole congregation after such occurrences only provides the devil with a strong foothold to cause countless problems between saints and bring drama to the Pastors table than he is appointed to handle ...
Isaiah 3:12 (KJV) "As for my people, children are their oppressors, and women rule over them. O my people, they which lead thee cause thee to err, and destroy the way of thy paths."
Neither does being the Pastor's wife suddenly change the position of her place in a congregation, nor does become acceptable to allow her any authority. My wife was previously on the signing team run by her former Pastor's wife. There were also adult men on that team under her leadership and teaching. I found it offensive and unsettling. Not to mention it was more like entertainment than anything spiritual ...
Too many of you are far too loose in your understanding. I am showing you what the Bibles says, not what any man (or women) says ...
"Notwithstanding I have a few things against thee, Because thou sufferest that woman Jezebel, which called herself a prophetess, to teach and to seduce my servants to commit fornication, and to eat things sacrificed with idols." (Revelations 2:20).
God has never called a woman to preach the Gospel and never will. I see a lot of women also using *Isaiah 61:1* to give them just cause. The use of that Scripture is an utterly rebellious and blasphemous contradiction to Gods Word ...
1 Samuel 15:23: "For rebellion is as the sin of witchcraft, and stubbornness is as iniquity and idolatry. Because thou hast rejected the word of the LORD, he hath also rejected thee from being king."
It matters not who stands for it or justifies it. Let God be true and every man a liar. (Romans 3:4). God said, "I suffer not a woman to teach nor usurp authority over the man but to be in silence." (1 Timothy 2:12). How can a woman be a preacher if she cannot teach me? Jesus said to his preachers (men) to "go ye therefore and teach all nations." (Matthew 28:19). God said for women to be shamefaced, (1 Timothy 2;9). How then can she preach or lead? God said, "Let your women keep silence in the churches." (1 Corinthians 14:34). How can she preach if she is not allowed to set the church in order? God instructed the old women to teach the young women (Titus 2:3-4) and he told the young women to marry and bear children, (1 Timothy 5:14)
Galatians 5:19-21 says: “Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these: Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness, idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies, envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.”
Look up the definitions of some of the words in this list of these atrocities ...
Testifying (from the pew) under the permitted supervision of a Pastor is not an open door invitation for women to automatically start running programs and leading projects ...
Look at exactly what the True Word of God has to say about this subject, and what the word of God says that is it. First of all the Bible says nothing to support the calling of women to preach as the many hundreds of women and unlearned men are claiming today. No, God never sent a woman to preach, and there is no bible that says he did. There is no bible where women proclaimed the gospel of Jesus Christ, using any one of the five gifts, No there is not one instance where preaching took place. Instead the bible condemns women trying to preach, having and showing authority over the man. I myself remember always having issue with a guest speaker's wife being given the pulpit for a time over the congregation. Whether its in adult ministry or the music worship team or any programs and projects. Even the Pastors wives are given far too much power in a church's goings on ... Only women and unlearned weak men believe otherwise.
*Numbers 22:27-28* is one of the scripture that is always run to for justification. (Which in my opinion just proves the point) "And when the ass saw the angel of the Lord, she fell down under Balaam: and Balaam’s anger was kindled, and he smote the ass with a staff. And the Lord opened the mouth of the ass, and she said unto Balaam, what have I done unto the, that thou hast smitten me these three times?" Out of pure ignorance and being unlearned, they emphasize the fact that it was a female animal, and because it spoke to Balaam they contend that, that gives them the right to preach. Now after the dust settles down, it becomes evident that they over looked what kind of voice came out of the dumb ass. Read, 2nd. Peter 2:15-16, "Which have forsaken the right way, and are gone astray, following the way of Balaam the son of Boser, who loved the wages of unrighteousness; But was rebuked for his iniquity; the dumb ass speaking with MAN’S VOICE forbad the madness of the prophet." As the scripture states, the dumb ass spoke with man’s voice and there is no way that they can go to Numbers to justify themselves as women preachers.
Another scripture the women run to is the one that speaks of Deborah and because she judged Israel. But, the Bible did not say she preached. Deborah was a prophetess and the unlearned try to tie that in with *Joel 2:28* "And it shall come to pass afterward, that I will pour out my spirit upon all flesh; and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, your old men shall dream dreams, your young men shall see visions" ... Not realizing the power of God nor understanding the scripture they think prophesying is preaching, which is not true. Prophesying is the foretelling of an event that is going to happen in the future. Prophesying makes no one a preacher, neither man nor women. It is given to women to prophesy, but not to preach. Just as the sudden interpretation of tongues in a service is not an automatic permission to allow a woman to have authority over the people from that point on. It is merely the person God chose to use as the most sensitive to His spirit at that time. Giving women a position over the whole congregation after such occurrences only provides the devil with a strong foothold to cause countless problems between saints and bring drama to the Pastors table than he is appointed to handle ...
Isaiah 3:12 (KJV) "As for my people, children are their oppressors, and women rule over them. O my people, they which lead thee cause thee to err, and destroy the way of thy paths."
Neither does being the Pastor's wife suddenly change the position of her place in a congregation, nor does become acceptable to allow her any authority. My wife was previously on the signing team run by her former Pastor's wife. There were also adult men on that team under her leadership and teaching. I found it offensive and unsettling. Not to mention it was more like entertainment than anything spiritual ...
Too many of you are far too loose in your understanding. I am showing you what the Bibles says, not what any man (or women) says ...