Post by TheFirebrand on Jun 27, 2012 21:23:57 GMT -6
“Notwithstanding I have a few things against thee, Because thou sufferest that woman Jezebel, which called herself a prophetess, to teach and to seduce my servants to commit fornication, and to eat things sacrificed with idols.” (Revelations 2:20)
God has never called a woman to preach the Gospel over entire congregations, over men and never will. It matters not who stands for it or justifies it. Let God be true and every man a liar. (Romans 3:4). God said, “I suffer not a woman to teach nor usurp authority over the man but to be in silence.” (1 Timothy 2:12). How can a woman be a preacher if she cannot teach me? Jesus said to his preachers (men) to “go ye therefore and teach all nations.” (Matthew 28:19). God said for women to be shamefaced, (1 Timothy 2;9). How can she preach then? God said, “Let your women keep silence in the churches.” (1 Corinthians 14:34). How can she preach if she is not allowed to set the church in order? God instructed the old women to teach the young women (Titus 2:3-4) and he told the young women to marry and bear children, (1 Timothy 5:14)
Its my personal stance that the women ought be silent most specifically during the sermon ...
So then what are all these women in the pews doing making such noise? They have no place speaking out. They have no business telling to the Pastor to "Preach It" or "Tell It" or even responding with "Amen" What are they doing leading song service or singing over altar calls ... ? Or sitting in the pews chatting during altar calls!? Whats with the open and public praying standing at the altar in a trance during the sermon or at unbiblically "scheduled" weekly prayer meetings (an issue I am still researching)
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Be aware that it is in Scripture that church is to be a "house of prayer" Matthew 21:13 and Isaiah 56:7 ... and that it was utilized daily in the Bible ...
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What are they doing leading programs or running sound systems and projectors having "control" over a service? What is the Pastor's wife doing telling teenage boys what they ought not be doing or how to dress? They ought be taking the issue to either their Husband the Pastor, or to the child's mother! What are Pastors doing allowing them to speak or sing from the pulpit ... ?
Acts 16:16-18 "And it came to pass, as we went to prayer, a certain damsel possessed with a spirit of divination met us, which brought her masters much gain by soothsaying: The same followed Paul and us, and cried, saying, These men are the servants of the most high God, which shew unto us the way of salvation. And this did she many days. But Paul, being grieved, turned and said to the spirit, I command thee in the name of Jesus Christ to come out of her. And he came out the same hour."
What they are doing is enchanting, manipulating and bewitching as the siren does! Breaking God's laws of righteousness!
Just look at the scriptures and open this topic up where it can be understood by all those who are willing to accept God’s word for its true meaning. The Apostle Paul used one of his epistles to declare, “But though we, or an angle from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed. As we said before, so say I now again, if any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received,, let him be accursed.” (Galatians 1:8-9). Try and understand that the Apostles forbid us from bringing another gospel that differ from what they preach. And, if they did not allow women to preach in the early days of the church, then, nobody can be justified in allowing them to preach now. Let us go to (Ecclesiastes 7:27-28), “Behold, this have I found,saith the preacher,counting one by one, to find out the account: Which yet my soul seeketh, but I find not: one man among a thousand have I found; but a woman among all these have I not found.” Even King Solomon did not find any in his day. The Prophet Isaiah proclaimed, “as for my people, children are their oppressors, and women rule over them. O my people, they which lead thee cause thee to err, and destroy the way of thy paths. The Prophet Isaiah speaks with a plain message; if a woman leads you, she will cause you to err, and you will be destroyed. Despite what is written in the bible and proclaimed by God’s word, unlearned and weak men are busy ordaining women as Deaconess, Pastors, Elders and Bishops, and they standing as head of churches are leading men and other women to destruction. (Isaiah 9:16-17) tells us; “For the leaders, of this people cause them to err, and they that are led of them are destroyed. Therefore, the Lord shall have no joy in thier young men, neither shall have mercy on their fatherless and widows: For everyone is an hypocrite and an evil doer, and every mouth speaketh folly. For all this his anger is not turned away, but his hand is stretched out still.” All of those out there following women preachers are less than righteous. Those women preacher who are foolish enough to call themselves BISHOP are wicked in their hearts and are blinded by the devil’s deceit. (I Timothy 3:1-2) make it very plain; “This is a true saying (This tells us that anything contrary to this saying is a lie) If a MAN desire the office of a Bishop, HE (NOT SHE) desireth a good work. A Bishop then must be blameless, the HUSBAND of one wife, (It does not say the wife of one husband) vigilant, sober, of good behavior, given to hospitality, apt to teach.” I don’t know where on earth they find justification for a woman Bishop.
Another scripture the women preachers run to is the one that speaks of Deborah and because she judged Israel. But, the Bible did not say she preached. Deborah was a prophetess and the unlearned try to tie that in with Joel 2:28, ” and it shall come to pass afterward, that I will pour out my spirit upon all flesh; and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, your old men shall dream dreams, your young men shall see visions.” Not realizing the power of God nor understanding the scripture they think prophesying is preaching, which is not true. Prophesying is the foretelling of an event that is going to happen in the future. It is given to women to prophesy, but not to preach.
Prophecying during a service (I have mentioned before) will come over anyone who is most sensitive to the Spirit at that given moment. It does not automatically give any one a position of authority (not even men) over a whole congregation ...
Galatians 3:28 is another scripture the women preachers and the unlearned men who support them like to lie on. “There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.” From this scripture they tell the blind that God will use a woman just like He will use a man; the bible does not make any such statement and Galatians 3:28 tells us that God has no respect for persons regarding salvation. Acts 10:34-35 also confirms this and again Galatians 3:26 says, “For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus. None of these scriptures have anything to do with ignorant women trying to preach the gospel of our Lord. They jump up and go to Mark 16:9-10, “Now when Jesus was risen early the first day of the week, He appeared first to Mary Magdalene, out of whom He had cast seven devils. And she went and told them that she had been with Him, as they mourned and wept.” Satan and his women preachers love to lie on this scripture by saying that Mary preached the first message. They love to tell this lie and refuse to accept the fact that the bible dose not say that she preached the first anything.
It was purely testimony!
So-called women preachers wear out the grass going to Philippians 4:3 “And I intreat thee also, true yokefellow, help those women which labored with me in the gospel, with Clement also, and with other my fellowlabourers whose names are in the book of life. They love to tell everybody that Paul had women helping him preach the gospel and that is not true. No where in the bible do you read of women helping Paul preach.
Also a mention from Romans 16:1 ...
According to the Strong's Exhaustive Concordance every Hebrew translation for the term "Servant" is in reference to men in their duties. It is the Greek translation from *Romans 16:1* that suddenly throws in "Deaconess" into so many false bible translations as their definition for servant in reference to a congregation. Their definition helped to distort the true meaning of what a women's role in the church is. As it continues in verse 2 she is referred to as a "succourer" meaning "assistant" or "helper" perhaps of ministry. The Jewish term is Shammash, which is in our modern terminology, a church secretary ... she was never put into any leadership role over people in general, she was only well respected and was honored with a position of "receiving help" when needed. Tho, not as a leader ...
Saints be aware that there are No Women Apostles, No Women Bishops, No Women Elders, No Women Pastors, No Women Evangelists, No Women Deaconesses and No Women Angels in the bible. Any church that have women preachers or believe in women preachers don’t believe in the bible and is not the church which was establish 2,000 years ago on the day of Pentecost. I say unto you, let them alone and have no part of that evil doctrine.
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God has never called a woman to preach the Gospel over entire congregations, over men and never will. It matters not who stands for it or justifies it. Let God be true and every man a liar. (Romans 3:4). God said, “I suffer not a woman to teach nor usurp authority over the man but to be in silence.” (1 Timothy 2:12). How can a woman be a preacher if she cannot teach me? Jesus said to his preachers (men) to “go ye therefore and teach all nations.” (Matthew 28:19). God said for women to be shamefaced, (1 Timothy 2;9). How can she preach then? God said, “Let your women keep silence in the churches.” (1 Corinthians 14:34). How can she preach if she is not allowed to set the church in order? God instructed the old women to teach the young women (Titus 2:3-4) and he told the young women to marry and bear children, (1 Timothy 5:14)
Its my personal stance that the women ought be silent most specifically during the sermon ...
So then what are all these women in the pews doing making such noise? They have no place speaking out. They have no business telling to the Pastor to "Preach It" or "Tell It" or even responding with "Amen" What are they doing leading song service or singing over altar calls ... ? Or sitting in the pews chatting during altar calls!? Whats with the open and public praying standing at the altar in a trance during the sermon or at unbiblically "scheduled" weekly prayer meetings (an issue I am still researching)
---
Be aware that it is in Scripture that church is to be a "house of prayer" Matthew 21:13 and Isaiah 56:7 ... and that it was utilized daily in the Bible ...
---
What are they doing leading programs or running sound systems and projectors having "control" over a service? What is the Pastor's wife doing telling teenage boys what they ought not be doing or how to dress? They ought be taking the issue to either their Husband the Pastor, or to the child's mother! What are Pastors doing allowing them to speak or sing from the pulpit ... ?
Acts 16:16-18 "And it came to pass, as we went to prayer, a certain damsel possessed with a spirit of divination met us, which brought her masters much gain by soothsaying: The same followed Paul and us, and cried, saying, These men are the servants of the most high God, which shew unto us the way of salvation. And this did she many days. But Paul, being grieved, turned and said to the spirit, I command thee in the name of Jesus Christ to come out of her. And he came out the same hour."
What they are doing is enchanting, manipulating and bewitching as the siren does! Breaking God's laws of righteousness!
Just look at the scriptures and open this topic up where it can be understood by all those who are willing to accept God’s word for its true meaning. The Apostle Paul used one of his epistles to declare, “But though we, or an angle from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed. As we said before, so say I now again, if any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received,, let him be accursed.” (Galatians 1:8-9). Try and understand that the Apostles forbid us from bringing another gospel that differ from what they preach. And, if they did not allow women to preach in the early days of the church, then, nobody can be justified in allowing them to preach now. Let us go to (Ecclesiastes 7:27-28), “Behold, this have I found,saith the preacher,counting one by one, to find out the account: Which yet my soul seeketh, but I find not: one man among a thousand have I found; but a woman among all these have I not found.” Even King Solomon did not find any in his day. The Prophet Isaiah proclaimed, “as for my people, children are their oppressors, and women rule over them. O my people, they which lead thee cause thee to err, and destroy the way of thy paths. The Prophet Isaiah speaks with a plain message; if a woman leads you, she will cause you to err, and you will be destroyed. Despite what is written in the bible and proclaimed by God’s word, unlearned and weak men are busy ordaining women as Deaconess, Pastors, Elders and Bishops, and they standing as head of churches are leading men and other women to destruction. (Isaiah 9:16-17) tells us; “For the leaders, of this people cause them to err, and they that are led of them are destroyed. Therefore, the Lord shall have no joy in thier young men, neither shall have mercy on their fatherless and widows: For everyone is an hypocrite and an evil doer, and every mouth speaketh folly. For all this his anger is not turned away, but his hand is stretched out still.” All of those out there following women preachers are less than righteous. Those women preacher who are foolish enough to call themselves BISHOP are wicked in their hearts and are blinded by the devil’s deceit. (I Timothy 3:1-2) make it very plain; “This is a true saying (This tells us that anything contrary to this saying is a lie) If a MAN desire the office of a Bishop, HE (NOT SHE) desireth a good work. A Bishop then must be blameless, the HUSBAND of one wife, (It does not say the wife of one husband) vigilant, sober, of good behavior, given to hospitality, apt to teach.” I don’t know where on earth they find justification for a woman Bishop.
Another scripture the women preachers run to is the one that speaks of Deborah and because she judged Israel. But, the Bible did not say she preached. Deborah was a prophetess and the unlearned try to tie that in with Joel 2:28, ” and it shall come to pass afterward, that I will pour out my spirit upon all flesh; and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, your old men shall dream dreams, your young men shall see visions.” Not realizing the power of God nor understanding the scripture they think prophesying is preaching, which is not true. Prophesying is the foretelling of an event that is going to happen in the future. It is given to women to prophesy, but not to preach.
Prophecying during a service (I have mentioned before) will come over anyone who is most sensitive to the Spirit at that given moment. It does not automatically give any one a position of authority (not even men) over a whole congregation ...
Galatians 3:28 is another scripture the women preachers and the unlearned men who support them like to lie on. “There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.” From this scripture they tell the blind that God will use a woman just like He will use a man; the bible does not make any such statement and Galatians 3:28 tells us that God has no respect for persons regarding salvation. Acts 10:34-35 also confirms this and again Galatians 3:26 says, “For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus. None of these scriptures have anything to do with ignorant women trying to preach the gospel of our Lord. They jump up and go to Mark 16:9-10, “Now when Jesus was risen early the first day of the week, He appeared first to Mary Magdalene, out of whom He had cast seven devils. And she went and told them that she had been with Him, as they mourned and wept.” Satan and his women preachers love to lie on this scripture by saying that Mary preached the first message. They love to tell this lie and refuse to accept the fact that the bible dose not say that she preached the first anything.
It was purely testimony!
So-called women preachers wear out the grass going to Philippians 4:3 “And I intreat thee also, true yokefellow, help those women which labored with me in the gospel, with Clement also, and with other my fellowlabourers whose names are in the book of life. They love to tell everybody that Paul had women helping him preach the gospel and that is not true. No where in the bible do you read of women helping Paul preach.
Also a mention from Romans 16:1 ...
According to the Strong's Exhaustive Concordance every Hebrew translation for the term "Servant" is in reference to men in their duties. It is the Greek translation from *Romans 16:1* that suddenly throws in "Deaconess" into so many false bible translations as their definition for servant in reference to a congregation. Their definition helped to distort the true meaning of what a women's role in the church is. As it continues in verse 2 she is referred to as a "succourer" meaning "assistant" or "helper" perhaps of ministry. The Jewish term is Shammash, which is in our modern terminology, a church secretary ... she was never put into any leadership role over people in general, she was only well respected and was honored with a position of "receiving help" when needed. Tho, not as a leader ...
Saints be aware that there are No Women Apostles, No Women Bishops, No Women Elders, No Women Pastors, No Women Evangelists, No Women Deaconesses and No Women Angels in the bible. Any church that have women preachers or believe in women preachers don’t believe in the bible and is not the church which was establish 2,000 years ago on the day of Pentecost. I say unto you, let them alone and have no part of that evil doctrine.
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