Post by TheFirebrand on Oct 8, 2013 22:01:19 GMT -6
This is an email I sent to a preacher of Irvin Baxter's church in Indiana. It was in response to his message ...
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In your message the other night you mentioned that you wonder why you do not see more miracles happen in the church. I can tell you that some of the same reasons are why I do not attend too often. You stated we are still in an Apostolic age and yet over 90% of the world's churches do nothing the way it was in the Bible from Acts, Romans or Hebrews ...
Well as I told you, I minister online. I do so because God knows its easier for me to keep up on things when I have my notes and written messages immediately available to me. I am also not very good in verbal discussion or confrontation. So in the following things that I mention I will also include links to messages on my forum page ...
First thing I am going to tell you is that everything I preach and teach on is absolute direct from Scripture. Some things may and likely will offend you. So I implore you to take the time to study for yourself the things I show you. I do not claim to completely understand or agree with everything myself. My mission is to speak what The Word says, and so I do ...
The reason I prefer to give tithes privately is because Jesus commands us to do so in Matthew 6:2-4. Yet at many churches what is happening? Music is being played and celebration (trumpets) of people sometimes waving their money in their lifted hands while they approach the money trays ... Supplying Needs (Tithing)
1 Timothy 2:11-14 One major issue is that there are women in positions and roles they are Scripturally forbidden to be in. I have several biblical based messages on this issue, but mine at the moment is with two things. One is that they should not be talking during the sermon. Women have no place telling the speaker to "Preach It" or "Tell It" even saying "Amen" is pushing it when the bible clearly states they ought wait til later to inquire with their husbands. Or sitting in the pews chatting during altar calls. Whats with the open and public praying standing at the altar in a trance during the sermon? I have seen this often and find it very offensive and disruptive of God Spirit trying to work ... for that matter there are plenty of men who ought be listening better as well ... 1 Corinthians 14:34-35
The other issue on women is with them leading song service. In the church, the Pastor is ultimately responsible for leading congregational worship. But that doesn't mean our worship leaders have to be Pastors.
However, given the importance of congregational singing, our worship leaders are fulfilling a very important role. They aren’t simply leading “music” – we desire them to direct people’s hearts, minds, and wills to the truths that they’re singing. Their role includes elements that involve a degree of teaching, leading, and ministering, which we know the Bible says are male roles in the church. For that reason, all our worship leaders ought to be men. In my home church song service was lead by our Assistant Pastor, but I never agreed with altar calls suddenly having control given over to women singers (leading) the worship and praying ...
The women ought only be participating in, but not leading, the worship. When women are leading the worship or carrying the spiritual aspect of the altar calls, and men start to praise and glorify under that influence, it is NOT in God's Spirit or in His truth. They are enchanted or essentially bewitched. If God wants for the woman to solo sing for a moment or to prophesy He will take over ...
Men ought be leading choirs and singing groups and for that matter there shouldnt be any real need for "regular" rehearsals. Its not a concert or a performance and perfection is not necessary. If you wish to rehearse, do so before service. Women In Leadership (Not In God's Church)
Second: Another issue is with the steeple on your building see message >>> Baal Worship And Steeples
Third: First I would ask that you start with Jeremiah 10 then when you have the time, go over the following material ... Holy Days vs Holidays and Holidays Are Not Holy Days For The Bible Tells Me So
The Fourth matter is with all the flashy entertainment, expensive sound equipment and sometimes very worldly programs and projects all for the sake of attracting the attention of the world. That is conforming. Everything from Vacation Bible School to the fancy graphics on the projector screen which is extremely distracting ... I have several messages regarding this matter but perhaps you have heard this by David Wilkerson ... Call To Anguish ... I tend to listen to it frequently.
Message For Churches
2 Corinthians 6:17 (KJV) Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you.
I tell you that these are the major roles the devil plays against God in influencing churches of men, and many of the so called miracles that do occur could also very well be Satan showing himself as an "Angel of Light" in order to keep Saints seduced and under his control rather than under God's ...
I ask you to take the time to look over the material I have shared and to read more from my forum Biblican Guild. My friend you may disagree with everything I just went over, but it is all in the Bible. So I say what I tell everyone; that the disagreement is not with me, but with the Word of God ...
2 Timothy 4:2-5 (NKJV) Tells us: Preach the word! Be ready in season and out of season. Convince, rebuke, exhort, with all long suffering and teaching. For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine, but according to their own desires, because they have itching ears, they will heap up for themselves teachers; and they will turn their ears away from the truth, and be turned aside to fables. But you be watchful in all things, endure afflictions, do the work of an evangelist, fulfill your ministry.
May God bless you ...
...
"So they come to you as people do, they sit before you as My people, and they hear your words, but they do not do them; for with their mouth they show much love, but their hearts pursue their own gain"
Ezekiel 33:31
“But I said to their children in the wilderness, ‘Do not walk in the statutes of your fathers, nor observe their judgments, nor defile yourselves with their idols."
Ezekiel 20:18
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In your message the other night you mentioned that you wonder why you do not see more miracles happen in the church. I can tell you that some of the same reasons are why I do not attend too often. You stated we are still in an Apostolic age and yet over 90% of the world's churches do nothing the way it was in the Bible from Acts, Romans or Hebrews ...
Well as I told you, I minister online. I do so because God knows its easier for me to keep up on things when I have my notes and written messages immediately available to me. I am also not very good in verbal discussion or confrontation. So in the following things that I mention I will also include links to messages on my forum page ...
First thing I am going to tell you is that everything I preach and teach on is absolute direct from Scripture. Some things may and likely will offend you. So I implore you to take the time to study for yourself the things I show you. I do not claim to completely understand or agree with everything myself. My mission is to speak what The Word says, and so I do ...
The reason I prefer to give tithes privately is because Jesus commands us to do so in Matthew 6:2-4. Yet at many churches what is happening? Music is being played and celebration (trumpets) of people sometimes waving their money in their lifted hands while they approach the money trays ... Supplying Needs (Tithing)
1 Timothy 2:11-14 One major issue is that there are women in positions and roles they are Scripturally forbidden to be in. I have several biblical based messages on this issue, but mine at the moment is with two things. One is that they should not be talking during the sermon. Women have no place telling the speaker to "Preach It" or "Tell It" even saying "Amen" is pushing it when the bible clearly states they ought wait til later to inquire with their husbands. Or sitting in the pews chatting during altar calls. Whats with the open and public praying standing at the altar in a trance during the sermon? I have seen this often and find it very offensive and disruptive of God Spirit trying to work ... for that matter there are plenty of men who ought be listening better as well ... 1 Corinthians 14:34-35
The other issue on women is with them leading song service. In the church, the Pastor is ultimately responsible for leading congregational worship. But that doesn't mean our worship leaders have to be Pastors.
However, given the importance of congregational singing, our worship leaders are fulfilling a very important role. They aren’t simply leading “music” – we desire them to direct people’s hearts, minds, and wills to the truths that they’re singing. Their role includes elements that involve a degree of teaching, leading, and ministering, which we know the Bible says are male roles in the church. For that reason, all our worship leaders ought to be men. In my home church song service was lead by our Assistant Pastor, but I never agreed with altar calls suddenly having control given over to women singers (leading) the worship and praying ...
The women ought only be participating in, but not leading, the worship. When women are leading the worship or carrying the spiritual aspect of the altar calls, and men start to praise and glorify under that influence, it is NOT in God's Spirit or in His truth. They are enchanted or essentially bewitched. If God wants for the woman to solo sing for a moment or to prophesy He will take over ...
Men ought be leading choirs and singing groups and for that matter there shouldnt be any real need for "regular" rehearsals. Its not a concert or a performance and perfection is not necessary. If you wish to rehearse, do so before service. Women In Leadership (Not In God's Church)
Second: Another issue is with the steeple on your building see message >>> Baal Worship And Steeples
Third: First I would ask that you start with Jeremiah 10 then when you have the time, go over the following material ... Holy Days vs Holidays and Holidays Are Not Holy Days For The Bible Tells Me So
The Fourth matter is with all the flashy entertainment, expensive sound equipment and sometimes very worldly programs and projects all for the sake of attracting the attention of the world. That is conforming. Everything from Vacation Bible School to the fancy graphics on the projector screen which is extremely distracting ... I have several messages regarding this matter but perhaps you have heard this by David Wilkerson ... Call To Anguish ... I tend to listen to it frequently.
Message For Churches
2 Corinthians 6:17 (KJV) Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you.
I tell you that these are the major roles the devil plays against God in influencing churches of men, and many of the so called miracles that do occur could also very well be Satan showing himself as an "Angel of Light" in order to keep Saints seduced and under his control rather than under God's ...
I ask you to take the time to look over the material I have shared and to read more from my forum Biblican Guild. My friend you may disagree with everything I just went over, but it is all in the Bible. So I say what I tell everyone; that the disagreement is not with me, but with the Word of God ...
2 Timothy 4:2-5 (NKJV) Tells us: Preach the word! Be ready in season and out of season. Convince, rebuke, exhort, with all long suffering and teaching. For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine, but according to their own desires, because they have itching ears, they will heap up for themselves teachers; and they will turn their ears away from the truth, and be turned aside to fables. But you be watchful in all things, endure afflictions, do the work of an evangelist, fulfill your ministry.
May God bless you ...
...
"So they come to you as people do, they sit before you as My people, and they hear your words, but they do not do them; for with their mouth they show much love, but their hearts pursue their own gain"
Ezekiel 33:31
“But I said to their children in the wilderness, ‘Do not walk in the statutes of your fathers, nor observe their judgments, nor defile yourselves with their idols."
Ezekiel 20:18